Greenside, Alton Road
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Keeping you updated about your new home
We look forward to welcoming you to your new home at Greenside. Whilst we're doing all we can to make that happen as quickly as possible, we also recognise the stress and inconvenienceContinue reading
Southern Housing is one of the largest housing providers in the UK with around 80,000 homes across London, the South East, the Isle of Wight and the Midlands, giving over 167,000 people somewhere affordable to call their own.
Our vision is to create and support communities where everyone has a safe home in a place where they’re proud to live.
Keeping you updated about your new home
We look forward to welcoming you to your new home at Greenside. Whilst we're doing all we can to make that happen as quickly as possible, we also recognise the stress and inconvenience many buyers are experiencing as you wait to move into your new home.
We've committed to providing buyers with a progress update by email every other Wednesday. In addition, we'll keep you informed on this webpage with updates and answers to frequently asked questions.
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You'll find these tools by scrolling down and clicking on the following tabs:
- Your questions - here you can ask a question and read what other people have asked.
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- Who's listening - contact details for members of the team who monitor this webpage and who you can email if you prefer your query to remain private.
- Key milestones - A timeline tracking progress towards occupation.
- FAQs - We'll add responses to frequently asked questions here, so these will evolve over time.
- Glossary of terms - abbreviations, technical language and jargon explained in more detail here. If you come across a term you're not familiar with, please message us using the Ideas tab below.
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Share Hi, Whilst obviously continuing to be disappointing, your latest update does point to the fact that one PC is achieved you will be moving in C quickly. Therefore for those of us in B, it would be good to know the following - how many documents remain outstanding to be given to you by Mulalley to submit to BSR? - Given the fact you’ve had well over a calendar year to negotiate these documents, can you confirm if you don’t have them all, when you will be receiving them? - what will the delay be between receiving and submitting to BSR? I’m hoping nil. I understand you’ve hired someone specifically to deal with BSR (seen on linked in) so I imagine that with all this time to prepare, you’d have answers to the above on Facebook Share Hi, Whilst obviously continuing to be disappointing, your latest update does point to the fact that one PC is achieved you will be moving in C quickly. Therefore for those of us in B, it would be good to know the following - how many documents remain outstanding to be given to you by Mulalley to submit to BSR? - Given the fact you’ve had well over a calendar year to negotiate these documents, can you confirm if you don’t have them all, when you will be receiving them? - what will the delay be between receiving and submitting to BSR? I’m hoping nil. I understand you’ve hired someone specifically to deal with BSR (seen on linked in) so I imagine that with all this time to prepare, you’d have answers to the above on Twitter Share Hi, Whilst obviously continuing to be disappointing, your latest update does point to the fact that one PC is achieved you will be moving in C quickly. Therefore for those of us in B, it would be good to know the following - how many documents remain outstanding to be given to you by Mulalley to submit to BSR? - Given the fact you’ve had well over a calendar year to negotiate these documents, can you confirm if you don’t have them all, when you will be receiving them? - what will the delay be between receiving and submitting to BSR? I’m hoping nil. I understand you’ve hired someone specifically to deal with BSR (seen on linked in) so I imagine that with all this time to prepare, you’d have answers to the above on Linkedin Email Hi, Whilst obviously continuing to be disappointing, your latest update does point to the fact that one PC is achieved you will be moving in C quickly. Therefore for those of us in B, it would be good to know the following - how many documents remain outstanding to be given to you by Mulalley to submit to BSR? - Given the fact you’ve had well over a calendar year to negotiate these documents, can you confirm if you don’t have them all, when you will be receiving them? - what will the delay be between receiving and submitting to BSR? I’m hoping nil. I understand you’ve hired someone specifically to deal with BSR (seen on linked in) so I imagine that with all this time to prepare, you’d have answers to the above link
Hi, Whilst obviously continuing to be disappointing, your latest update does point to the fact that one PC is achieved you will be moving in C quickly. Therefore for those of us in B, it would be good to know the following - how many documents remain outstanding to be given to you by Mulalley to submit to BSR? - Given the fact you’ve had well over a calendar year to negotiate these documents, can you confirm if you don’t have them all, when you will be receiving them? - what will the delay be between receiving and submitting to BSR? I’m hoping nil. I understand you’ve hired someone specifically to deal with BSR (seen on linked in) so I imagine that with all this time to prepare, you’d have answers to the above
Tom asked about 1 month agoThanks for your question Tom.
Once we take PC from Mulalley, all the handover documentation is collated and reviewed to make sure it is correct, in preparation for the building registration process. This includes documentation we have been collecting over the construction period, and documents Mulalley have to provide at PC.
Example of why we need to thoroughly check documents:
Changes are sometimes made during the construction process that require changes to the drawings. We have to check the documents we receive at PC match the correct drawings. This process can be time consuming due to the volume of documents received. We have a team set up specifically to review documentation on BSR schemes.
We have received most of the documentation required for us to take PC. It is the review of the documents that is most time consuming as we need to ensure they are correct before submitting them for BSR.
Once PC is achieved, we can share an update and timeline with you on the next steps towards occupation.
The next update will be on Wednesday 8 January.
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Share In regards to the gardens of flats in block C, will there be fence gates separating gardens from each other, because as of right now there is no sort of gate/doors installed on the pathway (although the properties at the back seem to have them currently installed)? on Facebook Share In regards to the gardens of flats in block C, will there be fence gates separating gardens from each other, because as of right now there is no sort of gate/doors installed on the pathway (although the properties at the back seem to have them currently installed)? on Twitter Share In regards to the gardens of flats in block C, will there be fence gates separating gardens from each other, because as of right now there is no sort of gate/doors installed on the pathway (although the properties at the back seem to have them currently installed)? on Linkedin Email In regards to the gardens of flats in block C, will there be fence gates separating gardens from each other, because as of right now there is no sort of gate/doors installed on the pathway (although the properties at the back seem to have them currently installed)? link
In regards to the gardens of flats in block C, will there be fence gates separating gardens from each other, because as of right now there is no sort of gate/doors installed on the pathway (although the properties at the back seem to have them currently installed)?
EMWOZ asked 2 months agoFlats C06, B01, B02 and B05 have private gardens. The panels between the paved sections of these gardens have been temporarily removed whilst water ingress works are carried out.C07 and C08 have gates between the gardens to allow maintenance access for cherry pickers. These are required to maintain the south facing solar screens on the upper levels. -
Share As the delays are piling up and the project completion is still months ahead - will Southern Housing cover the stamp duty increase if the project is delayed past April 2025? on Facebook Share As the delays are piling up and the project completion is still months ahead - will Southern Housing cover the stamp duty increase if the project is delayed past April 2025? on Twitter Share As the delays are piling up and the project completion is still months ahead - will Southern Housing cover the stamp duty increase if the project is delayed past April 2025? on Linkedin Email As the delays are piling up and the project completion is still months ahead - will Southern Housing cover the stamp duty increase if the project is delayed past April 2025? link
As the delays are piling up and the project completion is still months ahead - will Southern Housing cover the stamp duty increase if the project is delayed past April 2025?
Paul asked 3 months agoThank you for your question Paul.
The Government has announced that as of April 2025, the stamp duty land tax thresholds will change. The thresholds will vary based on individual circumstances. There will also be differences in the way buyers have elected to pay stamp duty that will determine whether any stamp duty is paid at the point of purchase. We will not cover any increased costs relating to stamp duty for this reason.
We advise you to consult with your solicitor for advice on whether your stamp duty cost will increase if there is a delay into April. The advice will depend on your individual circumstances and on how you have elected to pay.
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Share Dear Southern Housing Team, Thank you for your recent update. I understand that viewings are being arranged for flats affected by water ingress, but I would also like to request a viewing for the flat I am buying due to ongoing quality concerns. When I last inspected my flat in February, I noted multiple issues, including a broken backsplash, paint-stained flooring, improperly installed electrical sockets, and damaged window joinery that had been inadequately repaired. Given these outstanding issues I would like the chance to confirm that all aspects of my flat have been completed to my satisfaction, as my current experience left me uncertain of the standards being applied. Could you please confirm if a viewing can be arranged once my flat is ready? I would appreciate a clear timeline for this, as it is essential to verify that these issues have been addressed to the promised quality. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Best regards, Maciej Rusek on Facebook Share Dear Southern Housing Team, Thank you for your recent update. I understand that viewings are being arranged for flats affected by water ingress, but I would also like to request a viewing for the flat I am buying due to ongoing quality concerns. When I last inspected my flat in February, I noted multiple issues, including a broken backsplash, paint-stained flooring, improperly installed electrical sockets, and damaged window joinery that had been inadequately repaired. Given these outstanding issues I would like the chance to confirm that all aspects of my flat have been completed to my satisfaction, as my current experience left me uncertain of the standards being applied. Could you please confirm if a viewing can be arranged once my flat is ready? I would appreciate a clear timeline for this, as it is essential to verify that these issues have been addressed to the promised quality. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Best regards, Maciej Rusek on Twitter Share Dear Southern Housing Team, Thank you for your recent update. I understand that viewings are being arranged for flats affected by water ingress, but I would also like to request a viewing for the flat I am buying due to ongoing quality concerns. When I last inspected my flat in February, I noted multiple issues, including a broken backsplash, paint-stained flooring, improperly installed electrical sockets, and damaged window joinery that had been inadequately repaired. Given these outstanding issues I would like the chance to confirm that all aspects of my flat have been completed to my satisfaction, as my current experience left me uncertain of the standards being applied. Could you please confirm if a viewing can be arranged once my flat is ready? I would appreciate a clear timeline for this, as it is essential to verify that these issues have been addressed to the promised quality. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Best regards, Maciej Rusek on Linkedin Email Dear Southern Housing Team, Thank you for your recent update. I understand that viewings are being arranged for flats affected by water ingress, but I would also like to request a viewing for the flat I am buying due to ongoing quality concerns. When I last inspected my flat in February, I noted multiple issues, including a broken backsplash, paint-stained flooring, improperly installed electrical sockets, and damaged window joinery that had been inadequately repaired. Given these outstanding issues I would like the chance to confirm that all aspects of my flat have been completed to my satisfaction, as my current experience left me uncertain of the standards being applied. Could you please confirm if a viewing can be arranged once my flat is ready? I would appreciate a clear timeline for this, as it is essential to verify that these issues have been addressed to the promised quality. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Best regards, Maciej Rusek link
Dear Southern Housing Team, Thank you for your recent update. I understand that viewings are being arranged for flats affected by water ingress, but I would also like to request a viewing for the flat I am buying due to ongoing quality concerns. When I last inspected my flat in February, I noted multiple issues, including a broken backsplash, paint-stained flooring, improperly installed electrical sockets, and damaged window joinery that had been inadequately repaired. Given these outstanding issues I would like the chance to confirm that all aspects of my flat have been completed to my satisfaction, as my current experience left me uncertain of the standards being applied. Could you please confirm if a viewing can be arranged once my flat is ready? I would appreciate a clear timeline for this, as it is essential to verify that these issues have been addressed to the promised quality. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Best regards, Maciej Rusek
Maciek asked 3 months agoThank you for your question Maciek.
The unfinished items you have noted should not cause you concern at this stage, and items such as those would be classed as snagging items and addressed by the contractor before they present the apartments to us for snagging. When buyers viewed their homes earlier in the year they were not snagged and were not in a finished state.
A Quality Control Manager (QCM) snags the apartments on behalf of Southern Housing in line with the contract and NHBC guidelines. As Southern Housing has the contract with Mulalley, it will be our responsibility to complete the snagging and desnagging with them before we accept handover. Please be assured we will not take handover of homes until we are satisfied that Mulalley has met the required standards.
When you move in, you will have a defect liability period that will enable you to report any faults you identify, and you will receive a Home User Guide which gives details about the defect liability period.
Adina will arrange a viewing for buyers to visit their homes after we have taken practical completion. This visit will be an opportunity to measure up and see the home before you instruct your solicitor to set your completion date.
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Share By comparing the last few updates, it looks like no or little progress has been made. In fact since our July meeting, the s278 works, the water ingress problem, and the virgin media cables are still incomplete. The number of completed flats has barely increased across all buildings, and it doesn't look like all the SO flats will be completed soon. As you can guess, buyers share the feeling that Greenside is becoming a never ending failed project. In every update you highlight that you have no control over Mulalley's work progress. Saying that PC will not happen before Christmas, without providing a timeline means nothing, and it's unacceptable. If Mullaley is causing so many delays, could you please share with us what measures are you putting in place to ensure the successful and timely completion of the site? And how are you protecting your customers, us, the buyers, from suffering further delays? on Facebook Share By comparing the last few updates, it looks like no or little progress has been made. In fact since our July meeting, the s278 works, the water ingress problem, and the virgin media cables are still incomplete. The number of completed flats has barely increased across all buildings, and it doesn't look like all the SO flats will be completed soon. As you can guess, buyers share the feeling that Greenside is becoming a never ending failed project. In every update you highlight that you have no control over Mulalley's work progress. Saying that PC will not happen before Christmas, without providing a timeline means nothing, and it's unacceptable. If Mullaley is causing so many delays, could you please share with us what measures are you putting in place to ensure the successful and timely completion of the site? And how are you protecting your customers, us, the buyers, from suffering further delays? on Twitter Share By comparing the last few updates, it looks like no or little progress has been made. In fact since our July meeting, the s278 works, the water ingress problem, and the virgin media cables are still incomplete. The number of completed flats has barely increased across all buildings, and it doesn't look like all the SO flats will be completed soon. As you can guess, buyers share the feeling that Greenside is becoming a never ending failed project. In every update you highlight that you have no control over Mulalley's work progress. Saying that PC will not happen before Christmas, without providing a timeline means nothing, and it's unacceptable. If Mullaley is causing so many delays, could you please share with us what measures are you putting in place to ensure the successful and timely completion of the site? And how are you protecting your customers, us, the buyers, from suffering further delays? on Linkedin Email By comparing the last few updates, it looks like no or little progress has been made. In fact since our July meeting, the s278 works, the water ingress problem, and the virgin media cables are still incomplete. The number of completed flats has barely increased across all buildings, and it doesn't look like all the SO flats will be completed soon. As you can guess, buyers share the feeling that Greenside is becoming a never ending failed project. In every update you highlight that you have no control over Mulalley's work progress. Saying that PC will not happen before Christmas, without providing a timeline means nothing, and it's unacceptable. If Mullaley is causing so many delays, could you please share with us what measures are you putting in place to ensure the successful and timely completion of the site? And how are you protecting your customers, us, the buyers, from suffering further delays? link
By comparing the last few updates, it looks like no or little progress has been made. In fact since our July meeting, the s278 works, the water ingress problem, and the virgin media cables are still incomplete. The number of completed flats has barely increased across all buildings, and it doesn't look like all the SO flats will be completed soon. As you can guess, buyers share the feeling that Greenside is becoming a never ending failed project. In every update you highlight that you have no control over Mulalley's work progress. Saying that PC will not happen before Christmas, without providing a timeline means nothing, and it's unacceptable. If Mullaley is causing so many delays, could you please share with us what measures are you putting in place to ensure the successful and timely completion of the site? And how are you protecting your customers, us, the buyers, from suffering further delays?
Eirini asked 3 months agoThank you for your question Eirini.
We understand your frustration with the delays. Progress is being made but we don't include every detail of works in progress in our fortnightly updates. We've just added new photos to the webpage that illustrate some of the progress being made, inside and out.
The items you mention are not complete because they take many weeks to investigate and come up with solutions (water ingress) or to obtain the necessary permissions to carry out the work (s278 works, VM cables). Where we have information about expected timescales we have shared these in the fortnightly updates.
In our updates we estimate timescales as best we can, based on information available to us at the time. Mulalley has stated a potential PC for November, but we can’t be certain of this date due to the outstanding matters as advised in our last update. As with any development, we cannot foresee what else may occur during construction.
It's the responsibility of our colleagues and specialist consultants to monitor and ensure the successful and timely completion of work to the required standards. Some of the ways we check progress on site include:
- Monthly site progress meetings with the contractor
- Weekly Clerk of Works inspections (escalated through snag & de-snag process)
- Employers Agent on-site inspections
- Witness testing
If there are any concerns we increase our site presence while the issue is resolved.
We will continue to press Mulalley over the delays and request an accurate timescale for completion. However it remains true that we have limited control over when they reach PC.
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Share You covered that in your previous response but did not really answer the question. So what you’re saying is the NMA states the work MUST be approved before occupation but not necessarily started? Is that the case? Again, as you have presented it, you’ve made it sound like we have the NMA, so can occupy as long as the other conditions have cleared (ie lift), regardless of approval or whether the works have started or not. Is that not the case? Exact clarity on this (and every other issue) is so key- and SH are not yet achieving that. Again to reiterate- the council have confirmed this issue should not be affecting your ability to occupy on Facebook Share You covered that in your previous response but did not really answer the question. So what you’re saying is the NMA states the work MUST be approved before occupation but not necessarily started? Is that the case? Again, as you have presented it, you’ve made it sound like we have the NMA, so can occupy as long as the other conditions have cleared (ie lift), regardless of approval or whether the works have started or not. Is that not the case? Exact clarity on this (and every other issue) is so key- and SH are not yet achieving that. Again to reiterate- the council have confirmed this issue should not be affecting your ability to occupy on Twitter Share You covered that in your previous response but did not really answer the question. So what you’re saying is the NMA states the work MUST be approved before occupation but not necessarily started? Is that the case? Again, as you have presented it, you’ve made it sound like we have the NMA, so can occupy as long as the other conditions have cleared (ie lift), regardless of approval or whether the works have started or not. Is that not the case? Exact clarity on this (and every other issue) is so key- and SH are not yet achieving that. Again to reiterate- the council have confirmed this issue should not be affecting your ability to occupy on Linkedin Email You covered that in your previous response but did not really answer the question. So what you’re saying is the NMA states the work MUST be approved before occupation but not necessarily started? Is that the case? Again, as you have presented it, you’ve made it sound like we have the NMA, so can occupy as long as the other conditions have cleared (ie lift), regardless of approval or whether the works have started or not. Is that not the case? Exact clarity on this (and every other issue) is so key- and SH are not yet achieving that. Again to reiterate- the council have confirmed this issue should not be affecting your ability to occupy link
You covered that in your previous response but did not really answer the question. So what you’re saying is the NMA states the work MUST be approved before occupation but not necessarily started? Is that the case? Again, as you have presented it, you’ve made it sound like we have the NMA, so can occupy as long as the other conditions have cleared (ie lift), regardless of approval or whether the works have started or not. Is that not the case? Exact clarity on this (and every other issue) is so key- and SH are not yet achieving that. Again to reiterate- the council have confirmed this issue should not be affecting your ability to occupy
Tom asked 3 months agoThank you for letting us know this was not clear, Tom.
The approval process in our previous response relates to both planning and compliance matters. I apologise as that added to confusion in what is already very complex.
To be clear, the lifts are not a planning requirement, but a building control requirement. The NMA means we can occupy as long as we've achieved PC with all other matters concluded (for example, lifts), regardless of approval (of s278 works) or whether the works have started or not. We provided a list of some of these matters (numbered 1-5) in our original response.
Please remember that for those purchasing in Block B, the main consideration in terms of when you'll be able to occupy is the BSR process.
We have found in some instances, that providing more and more detailed information can become confusing, and subsequently leads to more detailed questions that go beyond the intended purpose of the updates. However, in this case it may help to see the wording of the Council approvals relating to the s278 Condition 22 of the planning approval, listed below.
The original NMA stated:
'The development hereby approved shall be completed in accordance with the Section 278 Agreement dated 18th October 2022. The approved highway works shall be completed in full by 30th September 2024 at the latest, or in accordance with an alternative date first agreed in writing with the Council. No more than 54 shared ownership units shall be occupied prior to completion of the highways works. None of the extra care accommodation within Block A [and D] shall be occupied until the highway works have been installed and completed in full and to the Council's satisfaction'.
The alternative date agreed in writing with the Council by email:
'I understand these works are now to be completed by 31 December 2024 and a further extension of time is required in order for the occupation of the shared ownership units to take place. As allowed by the revised condition above, an alternative date can be agreed in writing with the Council. Following discussions with my colleagues in highways, we can agree to the extension of time until 31 December 2024 to undertake the approved highway works. This is on the basis that none of the extra care units are occupied until these highway works have been installed and completed in full to the Council’s satisfaction. This has been confirmed via your email dated 07 October 2024. In the meantime please continue to liaise with highway colleagues and other relevant bodies in relation to the outstanding works'.
In summary, the shared ownership blocks can be occupied before works are completed. It is not within our gift to confirm when the Highways Department will approve works to proceed. The works will take place upon approval by the road safety auditor and permits issued for all works relating to the s278 crossover works, the Virgin Media and BT lowering of servicing works.
Where our updates are unclear, or lead to misunderstanding as in this case, we welcome feedback and will do our best to explain things more clearly. However, our focus needs to remain on providing information, wherever possible, that helps inform decisions.
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Share In addition to my question last night, we have had confirmation from councillors that, and I quote- ‘regarding the Section 278 agreement for the development, and we have now established this isn’t holding up occupation of the affordable housing units at Greenside.’ So why are you telling us that that is still the case? on Facebook Share In addition to my question last night, we have had confirmation from councillors that, and I quote- ‘regarding the Section 278 agreement for the development, and we have now established this isn’t holding up occupation of the affordable housing units at Greenside.’ So why are you telling us that that is still the case? on Twitter Share In addition to my question last night, we have had confirmation from councillors that, and I quote- ‘regarding the Section 278 agreement for the development, and we have now established this isn’t holding up occupation of the affordable housing units at Greenside.’ So why are you telling us that that is still the case? on Linkedin Email In addition to my question last night, we have had confirmation from councillors that, and I quote- ‘regarding the Section 278 agreement for the development, and we have now established this isn’t holding up occupation of the affordable housing units at Greenside.’ So why are you telling us that that is still the case? link
In addition to my question last night, we have had confirmation from councillors that, and I quote- ‘regarding the Section 278 agreement for the development, and we have now established this isn’t holding up occupation of the affordable housing units at Greenside.’ So why are you telling us that that is still the case?
Tom asked 3 months agoHi Tom
Thank you for your additional question.
I believe our previous response may have covered this but please get in touch if it remains unclear.
To reiterate, it's the approval process that may hold up PC (and subsequent occupation). The s278 works themselves do not need to be completed prior to occupation.
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Share Hi- Once again this update is highly unsatisfactory. You claim there’s two planning conditions preventing PC- lift works and s278. But s278 will not impact occupation due to the NMA as you’ve stated before. What I’m reading between the lines is that although you can occupy under the NMA, you refuse to achieve PC and will continue to do so until you have obtained concrete dates for the 278, so as to further cover your shortcomings in the event of another almost inevitable delay- is this true? And if not- will you commit to demanding Matt G achieves PC once lift works are completed so we may all move in whilst s278 takes place? You’ve provided us with August 2023, Nov 2023, Jan 2024, Summer 2024, Nov 2024 and now ‘6 month delay’ updates. I’m sure now at the final stages of a build- you surely have to be more equipped to make an accurate estimation So essentially it’s the lift works. Why has two weeks not been enough to put a timeline on those works? on Facebook Share Hi- Once again this update is highly unsatisfactory. You claim there’s two planning conditions preventing PC- lift works and s278. But s278 will not impact occupation due to the NMA as you’ve stated before. What I’m reading between the lines is that although you can occupy under the NMA, you refuse to achieve PC and will continue to do so until you have obtained concrete dates for the 278, so as to further cover your shortcomings in the event of another almost inevitable delay- is this true? And if not- will you commit to demanding Matt G achieves PC once lift works are completed so we may all move in whilst s278 takes place? You’ve provided us with August 2023, Nov 2023, Jan 2024, Summer 2024, Nov 2024 and now ‘6 month delay’ updates. I’m sure now at the final stages of a build- you surely have to be more equipped to make an accurate estimation So essentially it’s the lift works. Why has two weeks not been enough to put a timeline on those works? on Twitter Share Hi- Once again this update is highly unsatisfactory. You claim there’s two planning conditions preventing PC- lift works and s278. But s278 will not impact occupation due to the NMA as you’ve stated before. What I’m reading between the lines is that although you can occupy under the NMA, you refuse to achieve PC and will continue to do so until you have obtained concrete dates for the 278, so as to further cover your shortcomings in the event of another almost inevitable delay- is this true? And if not- will you commit to demanding Matt G achieves PC once lift works are completed so we may all move in whilst s278 takes place? You’ve provided us with August 2023, Nov 2023, Jan 2024, Summer 2024, Nov 2024 and now ‘6 month delay’ updates. I’m sure now at the final stages of a build- you surely have to be more equipped to make an accurate estimation So essentially it’s the lift works. Why has two weeks not been enough to put a timeline on those works? on Linkedin Email Hi- Once again this update is highly unsatisfactory. You claim there’s two planning conditions preventing PC- lift works and s278. But s278 will not impact occupation due to the NMA as you’ve stated before. What I’m reading between the lines is that although you can occupy under the NMA, you refuse to achieve PC and will continue to do so until you have obtained concrete dates for the 278, so as to further cover your shortcomings in the event of another almost inevitable delay- is this true? And if not- will you commit to demanding Matt G achieves PC once lift works are completed so we may all move in whilst s278 takes place? You’ve provided us with August 2023, Nov 2023, Jan 2024, Summer 2024, Nov 2024 and now ‘6 month delay’ updates. I’m sure now at the final stages of a build- you surely have to be more equipped to make an accurate estimation So essentially it’s the lift works. Why has two weeks not been enough to put a timeline on those works? link
Hi- Once again this update is highly unsatisfactory. You claim there’s two planning conditions preventing PC- lift works and s278. But s278 will not impact occupation due to the NMA as you’ve stated before. What I’m reading between the lines is that although you can occupy under the NMA, you refuse to achieve PC and will continue to do so until you have obtained concrete dates for the 278, so as to further cover your shortcomings in the event of another almost inevitable delay- is this true? And if not- will you commit to demanding Matt G achieves PC once lift works are completed so we may all move in whilst s278 takes place? You’ve provided us with August 2023, Nov 2023, Jan 2024, Summer 2024, Nov 2024 and now ‘6 month delay’ updates. I’m sure now at the final stages of a build- you surely have to be more equipped to make an accurate estimation So essentially it’s the lift works. Why has two weeks not been enough to put a timeline on those works?
Tom asked 3 months agoHi Tom
Thank you for sharing your questions.
There is now only one outstanding planning condition - the s278 crossover works. The non-material amendment allows occupation of Block B & C prior to those works being carried out up until 31 December.
Approval of the s278 is not in our gift to control. The Highways department at the Council have a strict audit process leading to acceptance of the crossover drawings before they’re submitted to the road safety auditor for their independent and impartial sign off. We have included estimated timescales for this in our update (see What this means for our timeline). Please note the different timescales for Blocks B and C.
Our contractor, Mulalley has not yet achieved Practical Completion for a number of reasons, which we've flagged in our updates. Alongside the lift works, these include:
- Submission and acceptance of s278 crossover drawings including Virgin Media & BT lowering of services.
- Provision of compliance documentation required for handover (EPCs, lift certificates, Building Control sign off, Building Warranty sign off etc).
Provision of handover documentation, such Operations & Maintenance Manuals, Health & Safety files, Approved Document B Regulation 38 pack, etc.
NHBC certification, including the updated fire strategy that will demonstrate that fire safety measures are in place for phased occupation.
Water ingress remedial works to lower ground floor flats in both shared ownership blocks.
Practical Completion is achieved when our contractor completes the work required to fulfill the requirements of PC. Our EA is not able to accept PC until all these actions are complete.
As we've said previously, we will be able to better assess the timeline for occupation of all Blocks once we’ve reached PC. Until then, we can only provide estimates and these are subject to change.
Regarding the lift, Mulalley has made suggestions for remediation that need to be reviewed by our consultant. As you might expect, the solution needs to be robust and compliant. Until we know which solution is being taken forward, we cannot provide a timeline for the work. We expect to have this information by the next update.
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Share Hi, Can I ask how you plan to recover the delay within the 6 months you previously quoted? As that six months was explicitly due to the uncertainty around you submitted documents for BSR changes post October 2023, can we assume that you have no figured these out and in fact this can be reduced by more than 2 weeks? It seems strange that now you can speak with certainty that this time can be eaten into. on Facebook Share Hi, Can I ask how you plan to recover the delay within the 6 months you previously quoted? As that six months was explicitly due to the uncertainty around you submitted documents for BSR changes post October 2023, can we assume that you have no figured these out and in fact this can be reduced by more than 2 weeks? It seems strange that now you can speak with certainty that this time can be eaten into. on Twitter Share Hi, Can I ask how you plan to recover the delay within the 6 months you previously quoted? As that six months was explicitly due to the uncertainty around you submitted documents for BSR changes post October 2023, can we assume that you have no figured these out and in fact this can be reduced by more than 2 weeks? It seems strange that now you can speak with certainty that this time can be eaten into. on Linkedin Email Hi, Can I ask how you plan to recover the delay within the 6 months you previously quoted? As that six months was explicitly due to the uncertainty around you submitted documents for BSR changes post October 2023, can we assume that you have no figured these out and in fact this can be reduced by more than 2 weeks? It seems strange that now you can speak with certainty that this time can be eaten into. link
Hi, Can I ask how you plan to recover the delay within the 6 months you previously quoted? As that six months was explicitly due to the uncertainty around you submitted documents for BSR changes post October 2023, can we assume that you have no figured these out and in fact this can be reduced by more than 2 weeks? It seems strange that now you can speak with certainty that this time can be eaten into.
Tom asked 4 months agoThanks for your question, Tom
The six-month period we previously allowed is to assist in collating and validating the thousands of documents required for registration of Block B, whilst also giving consideration to the period it will take for the Regulator to review and approve the submission. We have already started this process, but many documents will not be available until Practical Completion so we have allowed the six-month window.We are hopeful we can manage this anticipated delay within the window we have allowed, because we will continue to gather and process the documentation in tandem. For this reason, the delay does not necessarily mean the overall timeline for Building Safety Registration will be extended.
As previously advised, we will be able to better assess the timeline for occupation once we’ve reached PC.
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Share Hey! I was just after some clarification so I know I understand correctly. When we were given the worse case scenario of a further 6 month delay from PC, does that mean now (since Pc won’t be October) that because there’s no idea of when PC will be that we are looking at a much longer delay than 6 months from now? I hope that makes sense. Alex on Facebook Share Hey! I was just after some clarification so I know I understand correctly. When we were given the worse case scenario of a further 6 month delay from PC, does that mean now (since Pc won’t be October) that because there’s no idea of when PC will be that we are looking at a much longer delay than 6 months from now? I hope that makes sense. Alex on Twitter Share Hey! I was just after some clarification so I know I understand correctly. When we were given the worse case scenario of a further 6 month delay from PC, does that mean now (since Pc won’t be October) that because there’s no idea of when PC will be that we are looking at a much longer delay than 6 months from now? I hope that makes sense. Alex on Linkedin Email Hey! I was just after some clarification so I know I understand correctly. When we were given the worse case scenario of a further 6 month delay from PC, does that mean now (since Pc won’t be October) that because there’s no idea of when PC will be that we are looking at a much longer delay than 6 months from now? I hope that makes sense. Alex link
Hey! I was just after some clarification so I know I understand correctly. When we were given the worse case scenario of a further 6 month delay from PC, does that mean now (since Pc won’t be October) that because there’s no idea of when PC will be that we are looking at a much longer delay than 6 months from now? I hope that makes sense. Alex
Alexandra asked 4 months agoHi Alex, Thanks for your question.
Whilst we are no longer expecting to achieve PC in October, it does not necessarily mean the overall timeline for Building Safety Registration will be extended. We will work to recover this delay from within the six-month period we have allowed for registration. We do not anticipate any further delay to occupation of Block B, and we will also be able to better identify the impact of any delay to occupation of Block C by our next update.
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Key milestones
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Fortnightly buyer updates begin
Greenside, Alton Road has finished this stageEvery other Wednesday beginning 7 August
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Southern Housing assessment of remaining works published
Greenside, Alton Road has finished this stageAssessment of expected programme, based on visual inspections. We'll include a revised assessment with each fortnightly update.
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Planning conditions cleared
Greenside, Alton Road has finished this stageSee FAQs for explanation of planning conditions
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Building control sign off and NHBC Building Warranty issued
Greenside, Alton Road has finished this stageCML is achieved and the building is physically complete
See FAQs for what’s a CML, what is a building warranty, what is building control sign off
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Document control sign-off
Greenside, Alton Road is currently at this stageThis is achieved once our third-party M&E consultant, Calford Seaden has audited and approved observations and findings, including the Operations and Maintenance (O&M) manual.
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Section 278 works complete
this is an upcoming stage for Greenside, Alton RoadInstallation of pavement crossover works approved by Wandsworth Highways.
See Glossary for explanation of s278 works
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Practical Completion
this is an upcoming stage for Greenside, Alton RoadPractical Completion (PC) certificate issued by our Employers Agent
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Internal handover of Block C
this is an upcoming stage for Greenside, Alton RoadInternal handover of Block C between Southern Housing Construction Team and the Sales Team
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Sales Team serves notice to complete
this is an upcoming stage for Greenside, Alton RoadBlock C only
Our solicitors serve notice to purchasers’ solicitors advising we are ready to complete the sale. Your solicitor will agree a specific move in date on your behalf
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Occupation of Block C
this is an upcoming stage for Greenside, Alton RoadCustomers move in within 10 working days of notice being served (unless prior agreement made)
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Building Safety Registration submitted
this is an upcoming stage for Greenside, Alton RoadBSR form submitted to Regulator (once Southern Housing Design and Technical Team are satisfied with all documents). Follows PC, Block B only
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Building registration confirmed by the Regulator
this is an upcoming stage for Greenside, Alton RoadBlock B only
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Internal handover of Block B
this is an upcoming stage for Greenside, Alton RoadInternal handover between Southern Housing Construction Team and the Sales Team
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Sales Team serves notice to complete
this is an upcoming stage for Greenside, Alton RoadBlock B only
Our solicitors serve notice to purchasers’ solicitors advising we are ready to complete the sale. Your solicitor will agree a specific move in date on your behalf
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Occupation of Block B
this is an upcoming stage for Greenside, Alton RoadCustomers move in within 10 working days of notice being served (unless prior agreement made)
FAQs (Frequently Asked Questions)
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Programme
- BSR Gateway 3 application has a determination period of 8 weeks from submission of the relevant documents. If PC is around Christmas, why are we targeting occupation in April?
- Why has expected date of completion moved again (this time by 6 months)?
- What is the cause of the delay?
- When will you confirm if the delay will be as long as 6 months?
- Can we have a copy of the schedule of works to see what is still outstanding?
- Why are we not seeing much activity on site when we pass?
- Can we meet with the provider of the practical completion approval / Wandsworth Council Housing Dept to explain the situation and ask them to expedite the approval process?
- Can you clarify how long it takes to get the required documents from Mulalley, as you’ve said the BSR takes 28 days after PC, yet you’re also saying it could take six months.
- What is the role of Matt Townsend (Gardener Partnership)?
- Checks and inspections
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Outstanding works
- Will Practical Completion (PC) be accepted for the whole development regardless of whether the s278 works remain outstanding or are still in progress?
- What are these pavement crossover / Virgin Media diversion works that remain outstanding?
- What is the cause of the water ingress and what is being done about it?
- Building Safety Regulator
- Planning matters
- Design details
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Occupation
- Can you clarify when I will be able to move into my new home? I need to give notice/my mortgage offer is about to run out.
- Can you speed up/prioritise completion of my flat as my housing situation is urgent?
- Is occupation of Block C (or parts of Block C) dependent on consent from Wandsworth Borough Council and fire safety strategy approval?
- Can flats in Cyprus House (Block C) be occupied before Block B is registered with the BSR?
- If PC of the entire development may not be possible for some months still, what are the reasons for no partial PC and occupation of Block C in the meantime?
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Support for buyers
- Will Southern Housing cover the stamp duty increase if the project is delayed past April 2025?
- I'm told I can't view my flat because of water damage and because it would disrupt work on site. Why not?
- Could Southern Housing provide temporary accommodation until we move in?
- My rent/mortgage payments have now increased. Would Southern Housing contribute towards this extra, unexpected cost?
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